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Old 07-30-2019, 09:17 PM   #26
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But just 1% of card are affected. Or maybe even less. I think I read that somewhere today.
I guarantee the number of cards subbed by these guys is in the hundreds of thousands, at least.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:21 PM   #27
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I guarantee the number of cards subbed by these guys is in the hundreds of thousands, at least.
They have been around since the 90s if not further back. Veterans.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:23 PM   #28
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I guarantee the number of cards subbed by these guys is in the hundreds of thousands, at least.
How do you become an authorized PSA dealer?
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:23 PM   #29
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But just 1% of card are affected. Or maybe even less. I think I read that somewhere today.
A guy on 54 said we only know about 300 or so, and of those many aren't clear.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:23 PM   #30
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More people for the FBI to investigate.

I wonder to what extent these guys collaborate with PWC, Moser, etc., perhaps we’ll find out soon.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:23 PM   #31
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How do you become an authorized PSA dealer?
By applying.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:25 PM   #32
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I think the National just took a left turn for them.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:25 PM   #33
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They are no strangers to ebay with 40K plus feedbacks.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/triplesssin...p2046732.m1684

If memory serves, there was a thread on Net 54 praising them not long ago.
That happens a lot over there with really shady sellers/people.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:28 PM   #34
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http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ghlight=skerbe
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:34 PM   #35
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Purge 2019 - keep them coming BODA!
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:36 PM   #36
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Just these days?

Exactly! Let's not kid ourselves.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:42 PM   #37
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Regarding Net54, this member stated what is at stake here more clearly than anyone else to date. Thank you for that, Mr. Sloate.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=118




Folks, we have arrived at an inflection point in this hobby. It truly is the concerned collectors versus an array of moneyed interests. These coming months will decide it all.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:45 PM   #38
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I read Barry Sloate's comments today. I was left with a bad feeling.
His post was right on but I fear things are lost and we are too far down
the rabbit hole today.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:50 PM   #39
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I read Barry Sloate's comments today. I was left with a bad feeling.
His post was right on but I fear things are lost and we are too far down
the rabbit hole today.
the ultimate irony. Doctoring has made doctoring acceptable.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:59 PM   #41
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Barry is right. But it’s a balancing act. Many of these cards are only worth what they are because of the scarcity in high grade. If it becomes acceptable to openly doctor cards, you will ruin that balance. The market won’t be flooded because there aren’t enough examples worthy of “conservation” to do that. But your pop 1, becomes a pop 2, then 3. And your $15k pop 1 becomes a $3k pop 3.

The people who should be fighting PSA behind the scenes are the big registry guys whose collections are at risk.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:00 PM   #42
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Looking for a May 2007 SMR...

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Old 07-30-2019, 10:03 PM   #43
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Regarding Net54, this member stated what is at stake here more clearly than anyone else to date. Thank you for that, Mr. Sloate.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=118




Folks, we have arrived at an inflection point in this hobby. It truly is the concerned collectors versus an array of moneyed interests. These coming months will decide it all.
Well said.

Keep up the incredible work BODA.
Your efforts and contributions are invaluable and cannot be measured..

..especially if PSA is doing the measuring.

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Old 07-30-2019, 10:03 PM   #44
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Who wants to pick up a copy?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/May-2007-Sp...MAAOSwfcVULNQO

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Old 07-30-2019, 10:05 PM   #45
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its about to go down.... absolutely nothing is off limits anymore with these clowns


all eras, graded, now ungraded (due to the sweats), numbered, unnumbered rookies, etc.

if its too nice, inspect it more, if your paying high dollar,ask for more pics,, and buyer beware on all lanes.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:07 PM   #46
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But just 1% of card are affected. Or maybe even less. I think I read that somewhere today.
Well when cards are getting subbed and re-subbed pre and post trimming, that number has to be 2 maybe even 3%. Just think of the money PSA has made on all the cracked and re-subbed vintage cards.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:08 PM   #47
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Era of “junk grades”... I’m treading cautiously in my collecting
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Barry is right. But it’s a balancing act. Many of these cards are only worth what they are because of the scarcity in high grade. If it becomes acceptable to openly doctor cards, you will ruin that balance. The market won’t be flooded because there aren’t enough examples worthy of “conservation” to do that. But your pop 1, becomes a pop 2, then 3. And your $15k pop 1 becomes a $3k pop 3.

The people who should be fighting PSA behind the scenes are the big registry guys whose collections are at risk.
Keeps getting worse and worse for 1950's and 1960's high grade sets on
the registry. My guess is most of these guys just want this to go away.
They rather just keep dreaming they got the best cards out there. BODA
is killing the dream. lol
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:26 PM   #49
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They are no strangers to ebay with 40K plus feedbacks.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/triplesssin...p2046732.m1684

If memory serves, there was a thread on Net 54 praising them not long ago.
Yeah, but no social media, FB, etc. Not much online presence at all.
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Era of “junk grades”... I’m treading cautiously in my collecting
yes---an era of junk gradiing...i get that. like the steroids era........
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